[Flamewraith]

It could just be bad luck that I have never been in group with a good bard, but I have NEVER been in a group with a bard where I have said "wow that is a mean fucking bard." Or "I don't think we would have survived that without the bard." The very sad thing is that I HAVE been in a group with a ranger where I HAVE said "Wow that was a mean ass ranger." And I consider rangers to be leagues below bards. As for bards in raids yell fucking yea they are nice in raids, I said grouping, didn't say anything about raids.