Do we know at what point charm becomes effective for a level 12? do they need 150 Cha, 200, etc? At 90 CHA, charm lasts about 5 seconds the vast majority of time. In essence; useless. My Enchanter on live uses Charm all the time. Although when leveling him, I always was with a group back then. I didn't start charming regularly until in the 50s.
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