I'd just like to add this to the last part of this discussion and it will be my last post.
Before I was on the team I spent a lot of time submitting ideas and doing my best to provide tools or help out in different ways. I'm not saying all of you enjoy giving, heck it's quite obvious some of you enjoy taking and griefing. People have different ways of entertaining themselves.
But for those who sit there and demand things be provided or keep getting angry when they are waiting for content. Why not actually get involved.
You don't need Admin status to be able to collate classic information and post it a readable useful format on the forums. (And a lot of you wonderful players DO do this for us on a regular basis)
You don't need Admin status to discuss raid rules and come up with a solution (again a lot of you do)
You don't need Admin status to learn where bugs are occuring, report as much detail and provide possible solutions (<3 to the bug forum people)
I can quite honestly say that in my own experience working with you all is one of the reasons this server has got to the quality it has today (excluding the EXCEPTIONAL amount of time nilbog, aeol, rogean etc have dedicated to this project)
When we try to fix things we literally have to come to you guys for your wonderful archives of information, feedback and knowledge.
The only thing that doesn't actually get us anywhere nearer to implementing, fixing or updating things is coming on the forums throwing your toys around screaming. All you do is make it painful for everyone else and make yourself look like a fool when showing us the inner workings of your minds like your believe that we somehow need to stroke the 'egos of the godly Devs'
So to all of you players who see a problem and get to work on a solution with all the resources available to you I salute you. You truly are the most valuable type of member of this community.
To all of you who can't use your head and would rather throw a tantrum, well, you have a lot of growing up to do and should be ashamed if you're as old as most of the player base is from 1999.
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