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Originally Posted by Wenuven
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Considering rolling either a Rogue or Monk for a pure melee alt. It's only a small factor in my decision, but I'm curious how the DPS stacks up. I found a pretty good thread that lays out monk DPS by weapon but didnt really see anything similar for Rogues.
Part of the enjoyment of playing a melee DPS is seeing the big hit dmg numbers pop up in the chat window, so I'm wondering if anyone can give me some numbers to drool over! Something like:
Max BS at level 60 with decent weapons
Average hit
BS damage at lower levels
I'm also curious about Monk Kick damage if anyone has some data on that too!
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Max backstab at 60 with epic is a bit over 500, I believe. However, starting at 55, you have a chance (like 40% per click of your BS button) to double backstab. Very sweet, very nice DPS boost, although the odds of seeing both BSs of a double hit for 500+ are like 1 in a million. Rogues also have a discipline that boosts the damage of their hits, potentially allowing for 2 1000+ backstabs at 60 with epic and full buffs. Average backstabs are probably like 300 though (or 600ish with disc).
Average hit is like.... I don't know exactly. Like 50? Rogue autoattack is more about hitting fast than hitting hard. 15/25 epic, 10-15 damage offhand without a damage bonus, only gonna be hitting for 80 or so highest I guess.
BS at lower levels is determined mostly by weapon really. I saw a 30-something rogue in OT backstab for nearly 400 last night (which half killed the kunark rhino he was fighting), and I recall my 20s rogue 2/3 killing stuff in mistmoore with a good backstab. There's a formula on the wiki for backstab damage based on your offensive skills, strength, and weapon damage: ((Offense + (Str up to 200) + (str over 200 / 5)) * WepDmg * Mult) / 100 ... "Mult" is (2 + backstab skill * .02)
Monk kicks don't hit nearly as hard as backstab. Flying kicks hit for like... 150 on the high end? They aren't impressive at all. Monks are almost totally about autoattack damage, whereas backstab is like 1/3 of a rogue's total DPS iirc.
If you want to see big hits, you could also consider warrior. They can get critical hits starting at a low level, and if you're swinging something like an oggok cleaver around those will be big. And then if you're berserk from low HP %, you'll get crippling blows. And you have a disc that makes all of their hits (for a short duration) into automatic crits (or crips if you're low hp!) Their average hits will be much higher depending on weapon too, when a rogue is basically a spam of small hits with the semi-infrequent 350+ backstab (BS min damage at 60 is 120 I think? But you see a lot more 120-200 BSs than 400+ BSs).