We had the chance for 30 vs 30 pvp.
Elderan was telling lies - when they zoned in with 30, there was 17 azrael on poop mountain, forcing azrael to evac to EJ and reform.
They don't wish to PVP, it's all about the pixels - and they prefer a one guild low pop box without time investments in PVE like this.
There main attraction was no variance like blue server, but if we waste enough of their time they won't show up, or will go back to blue - and red players will get their box of fun/pvp instead of 2 guild zergage.
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