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Old 01-16-2014, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Don't think he is angrier, but you do understand his point yes?

During the discussions, your guildmates and others who are guilder under Class C guild tags tried to justify their stance by stating "competition is classic, you had to wake up at this sort of hour and log on to a batphones message to slay dragons, if you can't or aren't willing to do that or track 24/7 you shouldn't get dragons".

Then when it changes you go and do exactly what the casual guilds would do. Come to agreements and rotate. Which is great... But it makes it seem like your original reasoning for your stance was merely a facade and the reality of the situation is that you just wanted to withhold pixels from the casual guilds and that pixel denial is what drove your competition. If that competition was really what drove you, you would have continued typical raid behavior as before. Atleast one would think.

So after weeks of people stonewalling and saying "we won't agree to any rotation", when the final raid plan ends up allowing for both some competition and some rotation, those who bitched and moaned about rotations being the end of the raid scene and competition is all that was left for them; you went and rotated without even trying to compete so far as the system allowed.

Is my view as a 3rd party observer incorrect? How much competition ended up happening the last 2 days? Why was there none - a lot ( depending on answer the previous question)?
Maybe because it was the first full repop since the changes and none of the class C guilds wanted to eat like a month long raid suspension right out the gate? TMO/FE/IB could either agree to a solution in VP that gives everybody mob kills and ensures no bullshit goes down the very first day of the new raid policy, or they could frantically rush around to mobs accidentally training eachother multiple times in the process and then argue with gms in petitions, on the forums, and amongst eachother for a week about whether said trains were accidental or intentional.

VP was desynching with all 3 guilds present and would have been a complete shit sandwich clusterfuck without some kind of agreement in place. I dont get why you guys seem to think theres some kind of secret class C illuminati new world order type shit going on behind closed doors to try to deny as many pixels as possible, its pretty obvious why things were done that way.
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