Thread: RE: Camping
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Response to this thread.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=138177

Here are the raid rules on where you are allowed to camp and park.
  • Guilds may not have any more than two representatives present at a raid spawn location.
  • To encourage competitive racing, guilds may not camp players out in the vicinity of raid targets.

Taken from: http://www.project1999.com/raid.php

Nowhere does it say anything about being restricted to a certain amount of people being camped in zone. You just can't be parked near the mobs spawn point. If the intention is to keep people from camping out inside a raid zone, they can easily change the word "vicinity" to "zones." Guilds who are parking at zone ins are not breaking the rules and will not be punished. I have only ever read that parking inside the planes may not be okay, as both planes are very small and the zone ins are relatively close to the mobs. If anything, this is what needs clarification.

I don't understand where all the misinformation in that thread came from. It might be due to confusion with the raid rules from one of the other proposed raid plans that didn't pan out. Never the less, with the exception of plane of hate/fear, it's pretty much accepted that the zone in is an okay place to camp out a raid in every other zone.

If GMs want to specify further, they can. But right now, guilds who are following the letter of the law are not taking advantage of anything or breaking any rules. All other raid guilds should be doing the same if they can.
LOL... we just had an entire thread where BDA was told "Guilds may not have any more than two representatives present at a raid spawn location" somehow meant that you cannot have more than two representatives in the zone, and that "how can it be any more clear than that?"

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Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yes, and yes.

How daft can you be? You can't have people in PoFear killing trash for armor, why the hell would you be able to have people xping in KC?

Sitting at zone in? Just sit the fuck outside the zone line. What isn't clear about not being in the zone when the raid mob spawns?
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Originally Posted by Hinshi Budou [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Cognitive thought process must completely fucking escape you... do you need a connect the dots done for you? If you have more than 2 ppl in the zone, exping or otherwise, you are pooched. If you have 2 ppl, you are good to go. Start your engines. How fucking hard was that? Lookin your way Samoht.
If Rogean suspended BDA for violating "the spirit of the rules", i.e.:

"That is way too close, not to mention the spirit of this rule should indiciate that it is unacceptable to have a raid force anywhere in the zone when a raid mob spawned, as it is an unfair advantage over the other guilds following the rules."

then

"To encourage competitive racing, guilds may not camp players out in the vicinity of raid targets"

sure better mean players are to not camp out in the same zone, as "vicinity of raid targets" is a much larger area than "at a raid spawn location."

TL;DR: you can't have it both ways... if having more than 2 reps in the same zone as a target when it spawns disqualifies you from that target, then having a camped-out force in the same zone as a target when it spawns also disqualifies you from that target.
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