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I keep reading the forums and all their former members seem to only be able to attribute it to Azrael.

Jesus, what happened to being self accountability ?

All of the core including the leader had publicly denounced Nihilum as a cancer to the server(read rexx post on Nihilum and checkraise posts when he started red dawn), yet they allowed that same guild to dictate their policy in exchange for welfare pixels.

Talked on so many occasions about how Azrael kills guilds. What do you do ? You become dependent on their members. All of which told you it was temporary and that their loyalty was with Azrael.

See a pattern ? You established an entity that had 0 self dependence and no opportunity for comradeship to develop. Playing on red is not about avoiding it's red aspects . You took short cuts from day one, I honestly don't know what was expected. There was no need to immediately sacrifice your self worth for dragons that through correct growth you might have been able to contest eventually.

This is all I got for you today. Learn from your mistakes. Now that you have a better understanding on how not to create a guild, hopefully one of you with so many great ideas actually has the balls to go through with it.