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Originally Posted by Nirgon
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If hide helps you get behind without being seen already, what's the point of sneak having a positional mechanic? I think you guys are wanting hide/sneak to have the "behind the mob" functionality at all times (even when not behind).
Honestly, if Rogean played a rogue for as long as he says he did and during vanilla-Velious... I have to give him authority on the matter (well, I think he has it anyway obvi). He's not a content/mechanic twisting scummy. Except mabe overnerfing drains cuz of Salty hoopin'.
Remove item recharging, revert hoop nerf!
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Sneaks positional mechanic is very important, in fact the skill is useless without it, other than letting rogues move when hidden.
Take a hypothetical room with 2 mobs facing each other. One sees invis, one does not. A rogue might be able to be invisible to both, by being in the rear arc of the see invis one, and having hide blocking the normal one. A non-rogue wouldn't be able to do this.
If rogue sneak/hide is not 100% at 60 something is wrong. Here's proof straight from Kendrick (Classic dev and official rogue advocate)
http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/s...ead.php?t=2857
"Faster Sneak Starting at 51st, you begin to move faster while sneaking. By 60th level, you are at a full run, and this combines with any speed spells. SoW sneaking, anyone?"