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Originally Posted by Uthgaard
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I wasn't just making it up:
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The problem is... the loot tables are still wrong.
You can't fix this and NOT fix the loot tables because it just doesn't work right. The mobs are carrying a "Rounded Up Cash Amount" and not a "Coin Count"... and your trying to divide a cash amount by its coins when all the coins have been up converted to a cash amount. It just doesn't work.
In a full group the most you can get from a split is 1g,1s,1c unless you get lucky and find a mob with over 6p and then you'll get 1p,1g,1s,1c. 12p you get 2p,1g,1s,1c. Your seeing allot of 1g or 1s, or 1c. Because the coins on the mobs are not correct.
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Originally Posted by Uthgaard
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If there was an upconvert system, you wouldn't be able to do half the quests in the game.
Some of you are acting as if you're at the mercy of the split system, and all common sense and personal accountability have been stripped from you as a result; taking with it, your ability to receive a fair portion of the split.
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Ya a global up convert system in place would destroy everything which is why in live they ended up changing allot of things to except 3250g [OR] 325p. But thats a whole nothing subject and doesn't really have anything to do with this. There was already an up convert system in place for the autosplit before the group patch and it didn't hurt anything. And you can fix this problem with a down convert system JUST TO SPLIT the money evenly and thats it. It'll be like like it was before patch but with out the ability to /split money in the effect to turn copper into gold (<-- Up converting *Exploit).
And Uthgaard go check out a mid range group of six somewhere and watch the loot on different mobs. And you'll notice that your only getting 1s, nothing, 1c, nothing, nothing, 1s, nothing, 1c, nothing, 1g (OH SNAP), 1c, nothing. Its just not right mate. (And them nothings are NOT from people looting the corpse twice its because the mob didn't drop more then 6g or 6s or 6c.)
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Originally Posted by Shiftin
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This is an incredibly important and correct post. If you downconvert, you will loot almost zero platinum off old world mobs, ever, in a full group. Below sol b and lguk, you will rarely loot gold. The rest of the coin adds up so quickly it has to be destroyed. You have to add back in the splitting upconvert function if you add in a downconverting function.
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We were already using a down convert system before this patch. So it would all depend on how you did the down convert. If you try and still down convert the coins you may run into "Over Coining" but if you just down convert the cash value like it was done previously you wouldn't have any issues at all but you also wont have the looter getting more money then the rest of the group like it was in classic. I'm not sure how Rogean is planning to do it so that's just one of them wait and see things. But "Over Coining" is still a better system then what is currently in place. At least if you have the coins you can do something with them over the not getting any coins at all unless you /loot it.
Personally I think down splitting the looted cash amount and removing the "/split exploit" is the best route since we can't completely mimic a classic coin drop.