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Old 08-05-2014, 08:12 AM
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oh dany. Dany suffers from Princess complex, same as Lindsay Lohan. shes been told shes special for so long that she believes it. id bet Barristan doesnt want to say anything bad about the mad king to dany, because Targaryens have a history of over reacting to news that they dont want to hear. Barristan has only been with Dany for a year or so, but he has served Targaryens his entire life, and he knows that well. and to be 100% honest, im not entirely sure that Dany isnt a little bit crazy (just like her dad). and the fact that you'd accept President Lindsay Lohan over either of the last two scares the shit out of me.

hopefully dany will learn. but maybe another blackfyre / targaryen war, targs led by Dany, and BFs led by Aegon.

shitty thing is, Stannis should be king at this point, an of the remaining claimants, i think Stannis would also make the best king. and soon, unless something big happens, they might have more support than people realize.

quick run down,

Arryns - Once great fam that would have had support (and did during Roberts rebellion), gonna be ruined by Robyn Arryn. The closest we have is Harrold Hardyng (Harry the Heir), if he looked up with Sansa, and had the right people supporting them, but theres no legit claim on the throne with out war to take it by force.

Baratheons - so Renly's claim is absorbed by Stannis, whom imo has the best claim. however, i fear that as he tangles with the WWs, Dany and her dragons will show up. he will save the realm by holding off the WWs, but he will learn that A) hes not azor azai, and B) he cant beat Dany's dragons as he watches them annihilate the WWs. and so imo, enter Stannis from stage left as the 1000th commander of the nights watch. AND after this last big WW battle, the Nights Watch and the position of Lord Commander will be highly respected and appreciated by the people of Westeros again.

Boltons - these are essentially the new Starks, as they rule the North. however they wont have the support to ever make a claim on the iron throne after the events of the red wedding. furthermore, the North remembers, dont expect the boltons to last too long.

Freys - lol.

Greyjoys - firstly, these nerds win on water, and lose on land. but Balon is gone, Euron is a raping pirate that will never have the support of Westeros, and will probably die when Victarion gets back. Vic could only rule Westeros if Dany put him there, and she wouldnt. Asha again has the issue of not being physically able to conquer westeros but wouldnt be shocked if she ended up in charge of pyke, shes good at getting people behind her (c wat i did there).

Lannisters - The Lannisters are fucked. be it due to the gods, bad luck, or the Dornish master plan. Tywin is dead, Kevin is dead, Tyrion is gone, Jaime can't fight nor can he inherent Casterly Rock as a member of the Kings Guard. Cersei is slowly losing her mind, her family's connections, her looks, and any grasp of power she might have had. Maggy tells us that Cersei will out live her children, so dont expect Tommen or Myrcella to have long happy lives.

Martells - these sneaky sand dwelling nerds have multiple tricks up their sleeves. Arianne Martell is smart, pretty, and dangerous. with Doran guiding her, they could be trouble. and with Oberyn's daughter Sarella disguised as a boy named Alleras studying at the citadel, it has to make us wonder what they are up to. im sure part of their plan is to install dornish law in westeros (as Dorne was never conquered by the Targs, they were allowed to keep their titles, laws, and customs when they were finally brought into the kingdom via a marriage pact). the biggest difference in Dornish law is that females are allowed to rule and be heirs over their male siblings, ie: by Dornish law, Cersei would actually be the legal heir to Casterly Rock over Jaime (regardless of KG status).

Starks - Jon Snow is their only hope at redemption as well as the iron throne. with Rickon being the heir to Winterfell (assuming Bran cant leave the cave). rest of them are dead or useless in terms of being King of Westeros. i dont believe Jon is Eddard's son, which is why hes not heir to winterfell, but could still be the heir to the iron throne, depending on the legitimacy of Aegon.

Targaryens - between Roberts Rebellion, Balons Rebellion, and the war of the 5 kings, id bet theres a lot of westerosi folks that yearn for the peaceful days of Targaryen rule. the problem here is that we now have an Aegon. and if hes a blackfyre, thatll be the start of a third targaryen/blackfyre civil war. if hes a Targaryen, well, he has a better claim to the throne than anyone else as he'd be Rhaegar's first son, and Dany is only Rhaegar's sister. if hes legit, shes nothing more than a pretty princess. Aegon doesnt have a strong enough force to conquer Westeros, but Dany does, which is why Dany needs to strike a deal with Victarion, which would essentially make her unstoppable on land and sea. personally i believe Dany could die in the final battle versus the WWs, kinda in a sacrifice herself to save the rest of us.

Tullys - pras blackfish, but nope.

Tyrells - these nerds will lose all claims to the throne with the death of Tommen. tuff times ahead.
Hahahahaha President Lindsay Lohan. Damn that's harsh, she isn't that bad.

I am an idealist. I'm from a shitty part of the world and I prefer benevolence, or at least attempted benevolence, to efficacy that comes with dishonesty. Not to bring politics into this, but GWBush and Obama are dishonest ass holes who are A) ineffective B) scum and C) couldn't run a lemonade stand. Even if Dany was as bad, and she may well be (just not in my opinion), having dragons would be legit for countering Russia. "Hey Putin, you like hunting bears? That's cool, I like killing tyrants whilst soaring atop this dragon."
I may be wrong, but you guys are seriously underestimating what Dany has accomplished.

I agree completely with what you say about Stannis having the best claim, but I disagree with him being the best candidate. He punishes Davos for smuggling in an attempt to save the garrison, and calls it honor. If he were so honorable, he would kill himself for having benefitted from a smuggler's crimes, rather than exact draconian measures on a man simply trying to help. Stannis is too brutal to rule justly. I have no doubt that he could do the job well, but the lower classes would suffer from his intractable sense of "honor."

I honestly think, of the characters with some remaining claim, that Jon Snow would make the best king. That being said, he is unlikely to be easily verified as a Targaryen, or to ever ascend to the throne. In his absense, Dany has the most potential to be a good ruler. And what about Tommen? He certainly doesn't have any glaring negatives to his character; at this point, I prefer him to Stannis.

Favorite characters:
1. Davos
2. Jon Snow
3. The hound
4. The Blackfish
5. Dany
I liked Tyrion until he got to Essos.

Least favorite:
1. Theon
2. Joffrey
3. Cersei
4. Robb
5. Baelish