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Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus
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I completely agree. Stannis won't be a "great" king; he will be a very effective king. He's already softened once by going up to the wall. He was trying to "be king so he could save the realm" when Davos reminded him to "save the realm to become king." All we need now is for Mel to sacrifice Shireen and for Stannis to rage-choke her to death and his transition will be complete.
Even with his current faults, he's STILL the one guy out of all the current candidates that I'd trust.
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If Shireen is sacrified, he'd definitely free himself of the evil within, in which case I will concede that he'd make a good king. But we were discussing present leadership. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, because I'd take Jon Snow, Dany, Davos, Tyrion, and pretty much everyone who isn't a Frey or Petyr Baelish over Stannis. I don't hate his character (despite what I said earlier), he definitely has redeeming qualities, but I certainly don't want to see him ever take the throne. I am cheering for him against Ramsay though, which is important - I am against him taking the throne, but not against him playing a larger part in the saga.
It's definitely a matter of personal perspective, which is important since you brought up "trust". I am more inclined to trust Dany's intentions, for instance, as opposed to Stannis' capabilities. It's just what you'd look for in a leader. Personally, I think morality is more important than anything, including intelligence or efficacy... too many people have been great / intelligent / capable leaders that have failed to consider the populations under their control. Similarly, people with good intentions have often led their people unto the worst results, so it's purely a matter of choice. I don't think it likely that I'd ever accept Stannis, short of him taking the black and admitting all of his transgressions.
Also you *****s be crazy... Dany is hawt, has dragons, and is trying to hone her craft in Essos (admittedly by destroying cities haha) before even departing for KL. Sirken might be right about something... given her brother and father's madness, it could be true that she is moving towards insanity. If that's the case, I'll readily admit that I was wrong about her, but until then, I'm holding out for either her or Jon Snow... or the extremely unlikely Davos which would be my first choice for king. It's interesting how Rhaegar receives universal acclaim from the realm for his character, exploits, and abilities, while seemingly everyone else in his family (his immediate branch of the Targaryen line, not the entire Dynasty) fails at just about everything that they attempt.
On a side note, some of the worst casting in the show IMO were the Baratheons. They were supposed to be giant, imposing, physical specimens; I didn't picture Robert being some fat average height douche or Stannis to look like a substitute teacher.