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					Originally Posted by  Not_Kazowi
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				I log in and pvped in KC last time I was online for a couple hours. I had fun until 13 azrael showed up for 5 of us. 
 
You should be directing this critique towards azrael. They are the one that claimed a dawn of smaller guilds fighting over mobs. 
 
I just don't give a fuck man 
			
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 I'm just saying for your guild to have fun and join in on big skirmishes there needs to be another guild with the same mind set as Azrael.  Pure PvP guilds with no interest in fighting for content just leech off of PvP opportunities created by other players.  They don't create  anything they just join in on what would happen with or without them. 
Holocaust isn't going to bring 6 guys into VP to attack 30 Azrael right now, but if another guild brought 40 and it was a 30 vs 40 I'm sure Holocaust would show up and get some yellow text on both sides.    
For your 13 v 5 scenario it is always going to be like that for small fights unless it is a GM event.  Someone in TS says there are holocaust pvping somewhere and there are 30 azrael on, what do you expect them to do?  Ignore the only PvP they will probably see that night?  If you have a small crew and don't want any deaths you gotta get your YT and get out.  You aren't going to control zones for a long period of time.