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Originally Posted by Bazia
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last 4 events before this were for low levels
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^ That. possibly even 5 if you include the arena event as a "low level" event (which it was).
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Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0
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shocking guess i never been around for them then, all 3 here and previous 3 or 4 on blue all were lvl 60
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This isn't true either. The last event we did on blue was a free run for all levels from freeport to qeynos. Before that it was a level 60 event, and before that it was a series of low level races, pvp events, and random encounters (on blue).
On red the only events we've run this whole year have been PvP events. The amount of misinformation that gets spread on these servers makes my head spin.
If you guys treat the Guides right maybe they'll be willing to run a PvP event for you high level guys. They are easy to set up and don't require GM powers like mob summoning. I used to do these
all the time because I was a Guide and couldn't do anything more significant.
The funny thing is, and I wish I could dig up these comments but it's not worth the effort, when I was doing all the big PvP events over here on Red, there were a
ton of people, including some of those decrying PvE events now, that called for more complex PvE oriented events that the whole server could go at. I hate to say it but I honestly don't think some of you know what you want, as is apparent to me because of the aforementioned flip-flop. That's not meant to be an insult because it's neither good nor bad - it's just an observation based on what I've seen/heard over the last ~year of doing events.
I don't think there's anything wrong with a PvE event on a PvP server, and a lot of you agreed with me on that 6 months ago (which was why I did a PvE event). The thing about it is that PvE events can absolutely be PvP events as well - fighting over the target to try and win loot rights. But at a certain point once it's clear one side has won, everyone should band together to take it down (if necessary, like it was last night). The winning side can decide if they want to keep the loot drops or pass them off, but at least that way everyone gets to participate and have fun (for most people, the fun is in the encounter, not the loot that drops). In a year from now people will be talking about how much they dislike the PvP events and wish we would do something PvE oriented like we do on blue. It's an inevitable cycle of events that will continue to repeat itself until the box dies.
As a side note, I have relaxed since last night. I was never really "mad", but definitely disappointed and frustrated at the situation. Regardless, I did take some of that out on Jibeknn, which wasn't appropriate, and for that I apologize. I really do think the current attitude at the top-end is detrimental to the server (there were people who had nothing to do with Nihilum getting PK'd upon entering DC, so nobody can say it was just to stop ex-niihlum), and that it's going to drive people away in the long run. All of that being said, I do plan to help with high-level events in the future, but will likely not quarterback them like I usually do. We already have plans to do PvP events a short ways down the road, both high and low.
The
only thing I've ever cared about is the health of the server - I don't get anything out of this position except the enjoyment of knowing that people are having fun, and as many people as possible are doing so. It's a tough place to be in, and I take a lot more heat than anyone else because - as some of you may have noticed - I often come to the forums to write explanations like this when no one else will. I do that because, despite the flames that inevitably result, I care about the community and feel you guys deserve to hear the reasoning behind various decisions. I don't have to do that, but I do anyways, because I care.
Sorry for the tl;dr. I sincerely hope this box can lay the past to rest and allow the server to flourish the way it's supposed to.
Edit: Karsten, I didn't do anything wrong last night, except to assume that people could get along, so what are you going on about?