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Originally Posted by Toofliss
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I'm thankful for the modern advances that science has provided us. I firmly believe that science will continue to better our lives, but I don't place it on some pedal stool. Time and time again we've had it wrong and had to rewrite theories.
Some are willing to look past the current gaps in the theory of evolution and put faith in the hope that some day we'll be able to answer all those gaps with solid facts. I'm a little skeptical that this will ever happen. This blind faith is the same sort that I use, but you seem to think I'm batshit crazy for it because I chose to back a different opinion.
That being said, I too like to sit and observe/reflect on my surroundings. The amazing complexity of the world all around us simply leads me to believe that there was something far greater than humans will ever comprehend that put together this wonderful symphony. It seems that some scientists openly acknowledge this same observation.
For now I believe that there was some higher being that I'll reference as God. If someday down the road scientists are able to close all the gaps in evolution and provide solid evidence then perhaps I'll change my mind. I'm open to new information and look to incorporate it when making decisions. Some in this thread lead me to believe that God could reveal himself to you, smack you in the face, and you'd still claim that there is no God. The amazing probability of all of what we see/exists came about due to random chance? That's more far fetched in my mind that a supreme being flipping a switch or waving his hand.
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Firstly, pedestal.
When considering The Big Questions, we're all skeptical that we'll get the answers we're looking for. To stop being skeptical is the death of thought, and reason, and rational inquiry. If you want to refer to skepticism as faith, you're more than welcome to do so. If your skepticism to you somehow validates jumping to the conclusion that an all-powerful, omnibenevolent and supernatural power miraculously created the universe, then by all means go right ahead. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. Don't teach it to my kids, and keep it to yourself. I don't want to hear about it.
I have seen leewong indeed say that there is no god, but this is not my stance. I'm not making any claims that there is, or is not any supernatural dictator at the beginning of the universe or the end of life. If tomorrow the son of this supposed creator descends from the heavens and raptures every believer into an eternity of praise and worship and servitude, then I will by definition have to immediately become a believer.
It is also not my stance that belief in the supernatural or the divine is the same thing as insanity, or stupidity - but it is immoral. You say you're thankful for modern science, yet you're so eager to go right ahead and assume that just because the theory of evolution doesn't answer every question about humanity, it makes perfect sense to pretend that god is not only responsible for the universe itself but created it with you in mind. This is an astoundingly arrogant claim to be making, yet this is what you must believe if you even so much as call yourself a deist. This is sheer solipsism; it's not conducive of rational thought or healthy for the mind in any way whatsoever.