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Originally Posted by Tenlaar
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Because you keep insisting that something outside of the laws of the universe exists and has a role in events.
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A role in events? What events? That's an ambiguous statement at best.
Something existed outside The Universe before it was created. Something existed outside of Space and Time before they existed because Space and Time were created when The Universe was created. The laws that govern the Universe were created when The Universe was created. All Matter and Energy was created when the Universe was created.
You don't need to claim "magic" created these things when you can just look at the complexity and symbiosis of Nature and Life. The complexity of data and structured order in ALL LIFE and Nature.
Mathematics and Probabilities work in favor of Design and Creation. Not random chance. For example musical notes exist. The frequencies in which they operate exist, but that doesn't create music. A creative force behind arranging those notes in specific mathematical calculations creates music. Songs don't write themselves.
Something cannot come from Nothing.
Probabilities
Dimensions
Try thinking outside Materialism which is fast fading in light of Information Theory. It's not difficult if you try.
Prove what?