Shit even considering the fact that Nizzar RMT'd some of the stuff, i felt Nihilum under Nizzar was way less clique-y in how loot was distributed, and what activities the guild did thats not just to help the inner core.
I mean whoever cant see Lite is a major pixel junky and does shit for him personally has got the Smedy nillynuthugger goggles on.
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