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Originally Posted by Glenzig
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Ah. So that means none of it actually happened.
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No, it did, and it was a legitimately horrible movement run by legitimately horrible people. The key is to recognize a few things.
First and foremost, they didn't even last twenty-five years, which is part of why I'm dismissing the movement as something significant since it doesn't exist today every single group I posted about above still does exist with the sole exception being the literal stake burning inquisitorial branch of the mentioned religions. Even then, today you have the suppression of knowledge and the bastardization of education (Kentucky/Tennessee).
Secondly, and this is obviously more important in a general sense but second in the context of your response. You need to look at the movement's roots. It's a movement that rose out of an intellectual class that was involved neck deep in a regime that has committed arguably more heinous acts than even Nazi Germany, a regime who's motives were 100% based on the accumulation of power, a regime who's stance on religion was literally beside the point.
In short, regardless of what they claimed or espoused to officially, they were still a morally bankrupt group born from a morally bankrupt group using a twisted ideological system in an attempt to rationalize their own actions. If you must insist on comparing Atheism a religion, I'd argue that you should compare LoMA to a cult.
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Originally Posted by Glenzig
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I like how that works.
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Context is king after all.
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It would be nice if the ones here who are vocally pro-religion would understand that the majority of anti-theists don't believe that non-religion by itself is inherently good, it is in fact neutral. The intellectual view of religion overall in today's society is a clear net negative. Removing the negative always results in a closer to positive number, even zero is an improvement over a negative in this case.
Can I "prove" to you that religion is a net negative in society today? No. At least no more than I can "prove" to you that gravity exists. All I need to do though, is drop an object to show you the overwhelming evidence that gravity is there. All I need to do though is point you towards the middle east, the Catholic Church, Ken Ham, or any other religious affiliation with significant influence/resources.