Originally Posted by Patriam1066
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So I assume then, that you agree with everything that your government does. After all, you get the government you deserve. As for Iran, I'd like you to google Mohammad Mossadeq. We had a government we deserved. Thanks
The world you guys live in is very small and defined by a few narrow variables like religious belief and government system. The real one is multifaceted and influenced by millions of actions and decisions.
I have Kagatob ignored so I ahve no idea what he said, but if its anything like what you just posited here, I honestly don't understand how you both could perceive the world this way.
Finally, there is no such thing as Islamic culture. In Azerbaijan, most people are Muslim, and they drink beer on weekends and try to get laid in bars. In Syria, people kill each other as a blood sport. Bangladesh, Iran, Azerbaijan, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and the Maldives have NOTHING in common with one another. But hey, they're all Islamic, so I guess nothing else is going on that could possibly explain their differences. They must all be mirror images of each other.
Not sure why I even post here, there really is no point. But if there are degrees of perception, on a scale of 0-10, 0 being batshit and 10 being in possession of objective knowledge of everything that takes place in the universe, you're at about a 1. You're not perceiving the world correctly.
Maximally, 30% of Iran's population supports the government. Honestly, I'd say its more around 20-25%... the problem is, that 20-25% has all of the oil, guns, money, tanks, etc....
It's not easy to simply click your heels together like in the Wizard of Oz and get "the government you deserve." People in Iran are resigned to their fate because they'd rather live an imperfect life than watch their family and nation perish. If you think about it, that makes them way more rational than many people on this Earth. The religious are always portrayed as those who care about the afterlife more than this one, and yet, in this case, as in many, their concerns about quality of life on this plane of existence supersede your belief that they should've done something, which would have to be militant, to eliminate things like misogyny and intolerance that you consider evil. By all means Lune, if you wish to defeat Islam in Iran, I welcome someone trying. But thinking that this is about a weakness of culture is simply misguided at best, willfully ignorant at worst.
There are a lot of people who would give their lives to change Iran... I'm at about 50/50 whether I'm one of them. I wouldn't, however, wish a conflict like what's happening in Syria upon them, even if it meant after 10-20 years of warfare that they might have utopia. The people who would inevitably die are more important than whatever values a person has, after all, if the highest aim of those values isn't to protect human life, than what are they worth anyway?
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