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Old 10-30-2014, 10:05 AM
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So you want to increase the punishment to go back down to Class R to encourage R guilds to step up to C?

The "new-C" guild would already have virtually zero kills for 30 days (maybe sniping some FFAs, but no C's nor R's (by definition)). Also, assuming the "C-turned-R" guild joins the R rotations at the bottom of the list, its another 3-4 months (according to your math) before they'd get a specific mob again, on top of not getting it during the 30-day no-C period, so 4-5 months without a specific target unless they get it FFA-style.

I agree that guilds going to R should (re-)join at the bottom of the R-rotation lists, but that's a class R internal issue.

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If I was a Class R guild who just completed my rotations on the mobs I deemed important and/or saw that I was near the bottom of the rotation lists(10 guild rotation is one mob every 30 spawns, most mobs spawn maximum 6-8 times per month, so on a good day its a specific mob every 3-4 months), I would just wait for a choice repop when Class C mobs included something I wanted outside of VP and just go kill it.
First, you have to win the Class-C race for that mob, attempting a C-mob does not move you to C, killing it does, per the raid page:
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Successfully killing a mob spawned under Class C advances that guild to Class C automatically.
So lets say you "try harder" and out-C the current C guilds...
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Then for the next 30 days I would go after FFA mobs during normal respawns (ie Taken) or if my guild never did FFA mobs (ie BDA) I would just relax and get reinstated to Class R in 30 days.
Now you are (re-)joining the R rotation, you are at the bottom of the list (everyone joins the rotations at the bottom). So while you could be 1 month into your wait for ALL mobs (so 2-3 months from all mobs) if you stayed in R, you are 3-4 months from ALL mobs so that you could kill ONE class-C mob. This is a net-negative in loot per time, without imposing extra restrictions. If you are trying to get R to move to C, don't impose additional penalties.