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Originally Posted by Blasted
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAO8oc93UVQ
Simple example of how Muslim's cannot agree amongst themselves about the interpretation of their own religion. This chick is MAD.
But to think this is a strictly Muslim issue is shortsighted and ignorant.
I live in NYC - one of the most culturally diverse populaces on this planet. I'm a white American male of western European descent - who, by the logic of many people, should have no friends of Muslim background, because they all should hate me. It's simply not true. I have many Muslim friends. They are all wonderful and peaceful people. We've learned a lot from each other.
I hear many peaceful Muslim people across multiple outlets claiming that all Muslims should not be painted with the broad strokes of extremism, and that Muslims are an inherently peace-loving people. I would tend to agree with this, based on my own personal experience.
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Those people may be good people, but they are bad at being Muslims. In order to be a 'good Muslim' you need to be what we in the west consider to be a 'bad person'.
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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
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There is no two ways about it. This isn't like arguing against Christianity who at least have the new testament to fall back on even though they love to cite the old to excuse their bigotry. The Quran IS their new testament.
Heck, it even has a verse or two specifically about your so called 'peaceful Muslims'
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Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"
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