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Originally Posted by Ele
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I'm certainly not on a campaign to keep out Fist of Nature no matter what and wouldn't be against it coming in as 1hb, but I think the item # argument is a bit tenuous.
Using the item list from: http://lucy.allakhazam.com/downloads.html
In the middle of Chardok revamp stuff is the Fist:
5776,"Fist of Nature", http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5776
Other items added or upgraded in late Velious, especially Priceless Velium Fist Wraps:
But Primal Fist Wraps are way down the list with normal Primals:
Custom Velious Helms in the middle of Luclin items in the 2600s:
But other custom quested helms are way down the list in the 35000:
Some Sleeper's Tomb items are just a hundred spots away from cloth caps (1001) towards the beginning of the database.
Kunark stuff in the 6000s: |
You actually reinforced my point (and saved me a bunch of research later).
Items added later are often designed together. The YY part of the YYXX numbering scheme doesn't matter a ton in the grand scheme (ie 65xx or 73xx), since items can be all over the place (ie primals by cloth caps) - but they are often in sequence with other items designed at a similar time. The XX part and being in sequence with other items is what does. That's why the wurm meat research is actually impactful - its in sequence with velious only items (and nobody can show it dropped in Kunark).
All of those patch additions are clumped roughly around when they went in and were designed in sequence.
The items you listed were designed in similar clumps, and the Fist of Nature ended up in the new Chardok revamp clump. The meat clumps show items that went in during Velious. The custom helms were clumped when they went in.
Like I said, I'm of the opinion that you just reinforced my own research. They design items in series for the most part. Who knows how they came up with the YY part of the YYXX numbering system, but the XX parts are typically share some similarity of either zone, type of item, or in terms of additions, by when they were added (ie expansion/patch). The Fist of Nature was in sequence with Chardok revamp items, which were put in 10-08-01. It's merely a piece of the body of evidence that suggests the Fist of Nature was not a luclin creation and it fits with the other parts of my research.