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Originally Posted by Daldaen
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Class R guilds go for maybe 2-3 targets per week.
Class C guilds go for VP (6 targets), plus another 6-8 targets depending on where the class system stands.
The amount of poopsocking is in no way similar. On top of this, windows are now Monday night - Tuesday afternoon. Which precludes most of your typical employed US Time zone players from partaking in raids (which is a large chunk of the server).
If however, Variance were reduced from 16 hours down to a more classic 0-60minutes. More guilds would be able to compete in Class C because the poopsocking requirement is lessened. If such a change happened I'm almost positive one or two guilds would jump from Class R to C.
But Sirken has repeatedly said he won't approve a change like that because he hates poopsocking. Yet Forsaken+Rampage had 25-30 each at the very start of VS's window with 16 hours left to go. I don't really get the hate on poopsocking from his end -- It is dumb, without a doubt. But guaranteeing players partake in this dumb activity a maximum of 1 hour would be a vast improvement over the unfortunate trackers who sit at a spawn point for 15.5 hours without seeing the mob spawn.
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While I appreciate your detailed response, and do agree with you for the most part, it doesn't mean you are forced to sit there and poopsock all of the time. People pick and choose what they want to go for, much as they are doing in class R. I do understand a couple of the class C guilds make it a normalcy to be competing for as much as possible, but what I mean is you basically get what you put in. There isn't a guild in C currently that isn't getting what they are striving to attain, simply because they choose to compete.
Also aside from the bickering that surrounds VP, its actually quite entertaining to see everyone from all sides of class C competing against one another. Most of the people are able to keep it quite classy.
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Originally Posted by Samoht
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There you go telling people how they should play again. I guess that's the biggest difference between class C and class R. C players try to dictate to others what's theirs and how they should play. R players just play.
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I didn't tell you anything about how to play. What I am basically saying is that you are being a giant hypocrite in this thread because you are bitching about a guild doing the same exact thing as you... But you can continue to ignore that if you choose.