Yeah, I've always thought that. A lot of those dudes go back way longer than this server. I don't think colgate is a zerg guild player at heart, at least he didn't use to be. gotta get a solid pvp core geared and then they will do their own thing. A lot of empire will dissolve like nihi after nizzar got banned or face pvp annihilation by dentists or w/e guild they become
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