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Originally Posted by Pint
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Arta and cloki are referring to two different nagafens which is a bit confusing. Concession means you walk away for the night, maybe it doesn't work like this in tov where raiding is a huge process but outside of tov on single target encounters if you train another guild then you should come back next week. That is my understanding although maybe I'm wrong. I will say though that if you tell the opposing guild what you're about to do and they stand on top of you after being warned then that is on them.
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I think the first thing here is being willing to concede a mob regardless of your vested interest and then the other guild being realistic about the situation.
For example, I was on a necro at the front of the charge, leading my people into position to pull giants and was killed by an opposing guild pulling giants behind us. Some would call that a train, but I didn't see it that way as much as us not communicating. Later that same encounter an opposing guild pulled Naggy and giants to the bridge and wiped my little raid of about 12 people after saying "camp now" as the mobs were inc. Now that should have disqualified them under this rule set...
However, none of my 12 were actually tanks and realistically I was not set up to engage the dragon had we not been trained and had there been no other guilds there. So I didn't push for a DQ and I just pulled my people out.
They did not, however, offer to DQ themselves. Realistically, we just need to be communicative and be the first ones to call ourselves out on things, regardless of how much we want these mobs or how many people we have at the spot. If a puller does something bad and leadership calls a DQ on themselves it's only going to provide a strong incentive to make your puller better and your guild stronger. If leadership tries to lawyerquest or ignore then it provides an incentive for your pull team to do that more, not less. Everyone does the right thing and it works out.