i think it was doing over the actual max damage to sitting players two years ago - like a 15 damage piercer would double duelist for 1150 or something, which is way over the actual cap.
I think I've seen like 1030's top end with a 15 dmg piercer. But yeah, you can miss and land hits for 15 on people sitting when you're wielding a 2hder. on live people paid dearly for sitting or being caught unawares by a rogue
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