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Originally Posted by Lune
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Oh yea, how could I miss that point you weren't making until now?
Where did I say I didn't want an armed public? I don't want armed criminals and lunatics. Obviously, they will still find guns. I just want to make it more difficult. Currently, as I've demonstrated, it is not very difficult.
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Actually, I
was making the same point earlier. Your point over not wanting "armed criminals and lunatics" is a red herring. Nobody posting in this thread has advocated arming "criminals and lunatics."
You say, "I just want to make it more difficult" and the point I made earlier is that it is already pretty difficult. Did you miss that post I made about how one has to fill out forms and go through a NICS check at a bare minimum, just to buy a gun? As a gun owner you should know that, but your retort was some generalization that it is so easy to by pass the system and get a gun. Your extreme example simply proves the rule by exception. More often than not the system works. So why would anyone want to make it more difficult?
The anti-gun lobby wants to make it more difficult because they want to disarm everyone. Because like you, they don't think gun ownership is a right. As you said,
"Then stop thinking about gun ownership as a right instead of a privilege. It isn't 1783 anymore and a musket is not an assault rifle."
No. I will continue to think of gun ownership as a right because notwithstanding the claim of gun owning liberals such as yourself, gun ownership is our
right. It goes along with property ownership and being in a position to protect ones property, family, and neighbors.
What is also telling in your claim I quote above is that you are a missing the significance of the fact that when the American Revolution was fought, many of the guns used were privately owned. The Brits would have loved it if they could have fought an unarmed population. This gets to the heart of the second amendment and the point that gun ownership is not a "privilege" as you say. Our founding fathers had the common sense to understand that an assembly of citizen soldiers might be needed in the future to fight off another tyrannical government rising up against the people. Where do you think such a "militia" is going to get their guns, if they already don't own them or possess them?
Gun ownership is a right and the regulations the federal government have in place today, restricting gun ownership, are plenty. We don't need any more.