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Old 01-21-2016, 05:51 PM
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Lets us remember that Maester Agon confirms that high Valeryn has neither masculine or feminine undertones - so while the prophecy is translated as prince, it could be princess as easily as prince. This seems an odd fact to shoe-horn into the book unless there was a POINT to it, does it not?
i took this as a red herring and nothing more. i believe GRRM has flipflopped quite a few times on how things play out.

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From the stand point of things making sense, could Danny qualify has hers being "a song of fire and ice"? Well what is a song of fire and ice. From GRRM Fire is love, fire is passion, fire is sexual ardor and all of these things. Ice is betrayal, ice is revenge, ice is… you know, that kind of cold inhumanity and all that stuff is being played out in the books
does the relationship between R&L not fit this description perfectly? not to mention the extra added flavor of Stark and Targ, Winter & Summer, Snow & Fire. ice is... cold humanity? trying growing up as Neds bastard in Winterfell around Cat.

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Ice? Betrayal? First her brother basically sells her as a sex slave to a barbarian horde, then her unborn son was killed to "save" Khal Drogo by a vengeful witch after she finally falls in love with him, She is exiled from the horde with NOTHING but like 5 people, Her captain of the guards then was reporting her activities to the Iron Throne, assassination attempts a plenty, everyone plotting against her constantly...she gets betrayed pretty much at every point where a betrayal is possible, far to many to recant. Revenge? She freed an entire people from slavery, shut down the slave fighting pits, took over half the world already, and killed the woman who essentially murdered her baby and husband.
So from this definition lets examine Danny. Has she loved? Yes, several people in fact. It is a common theme in the book. Sex? Well documented in the books her getting plowed regularly. Passion? Both positive and negative - She was so depressed when her baby and Drogo died that after she was done torturing the witch who killed them she went and jumped into the pyre with them. AHA! She can not be harmed by fire! She fits Fire PERFECTLY.
actually, Dany can be hurt by fire. sure she has a higher tolerance, but im pretty sure Mirri's blood magic is the only reason Dany walked out of that pyre in season1/book1. also, Targs arent fire proof. every single thing you say dany has, i can argue for jon via Ygritte or Arya.

Dany physically owns dragons, but she has no control of them. dragon riders bond with their dragon, no rider can bond with more than 1. which means in all probability Jon will also have a dragon.

again, by westeros law, Dany can not rule legally. GRRM (as you say in your quote) LOVES to surprise and shock readers, and i think that it being so obvious about Dany makes her a red herring. i think shes one of the 3 dragon heads, and possible our sacrificial lamb, and maybe the wife to the king of westeros. but nothing more than that. i dont see Dany sitting the iron throne.

Jon is literally the only character in the story with plot armor.
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