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Old 01-26-2016, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Im going to try to have a discussion about the failed conservative movement vs the neverending march of progress.

I will list a few examples of failed conservative programs please...

The War on Drugs - This is a catastrophic failure that has done nothing to stop drug use and in many cases increased crime and drug use across the nation. The very idea that it is still an active policy is depressing.

Privatised Prison system - It's in the fucking constitution, just like the 2nd amendment is, that we should not live under the threat of cruel and unusual punishment. But nobody seems to care about that.

Standardized Testing/No child left behind - This is the most retarded way to think about education. it is a complete and total failure.

Trickle Down Economics - There are no economists that disagree that this is a myth

Nixon’s National Health Insurance proposal of 1974 - Basically the patient zero for the complete meltdown of any semblance of healthcare america ever had, resulting in the failed system we have been trying to change for the last 8 years.

the list does and will go on and on... go ahead, name me one known failed progressive system.

PS one thing you can connect all the dots to when it comes to republican policy - they all are designed to disenfranchise black americans. So if you're going to be honest, then they are all quite successful.. the problem is if you're going to be honest, you're a racist piece of shit neocon.
/shakes head at IRYD

Girl, didn't you try to pass off these red herrings as good reasoning before? Sheesh.

Let's see... "the war on drugs" was not started by conservatives. In fact, FDR pushed for the "Uniform State Narcotic Drug Act" in 1935. I think you would agree that FDR is one of the heroes of progressive politics? At any rate, you can't blame the conservatives for the drug war. Plenty of presidents who were liberals supported the "war on drugs."

"Privatised Prison system"... Your point here is so ridiculous one has to wonder what drugs you might have been on when typing your complaint. I suppose you simply hate private industry and have somehow equated contracting out a prison system (which isn't a wide spread practice in the US) with violating the Constitution. Who knows what you are thinking here.

"Standardized Testing/No child left behind" is technically a re-authorization of the "Elementary and Secondary Education Act" signed into law in 1965. Care to guess which Democrat president was in office in 1965?

"Trickle Down Economics" is a derogatory term used by Populists who really don't know what the hell they're talking about when it comes to economics. There isn't an economist alive who says that "Trickle Down Economics" works, because the term refers to a complete red herring. There just isn't such an economic "animal" just like unicorns don't really exist.

"Nixon’s National Health Insurance proposal of 1974" is not the end product of Richard Nixon. You seem to have a very poor understanding of history. In 1965 Lyndon Johnson (a Democrat) got behind Medicare and Medicaid. By the 1970s the AFL-CIO was promoting a universal health care that had zero out of pocket costs for the consumer. Ted Kennedy picked up their proposal and ran with it. However, by the early 70s Kennedy couldn't get the full support of the Democrats who ran Ways and Means and Senate Finance. In 1974 Nixon, after following the lead of bipartisan efforts to get at least a universal catastrophic health care plan to Americans, proposed an employer mandated health care plan as a replacement for Medicaid. By the time Nixon was forced to resign, his proposal for a major health insurance overhaul and his proposal for a national health care plan, was chopped up by Democrats such as Ted Kennedy, and left for dead. So, I really don't know what the hell you could be talking about, since it is evident you have no clue what Nixon was trying to do where health care is concerned. Indeed, today's "progressives" would have applauded him!

Let's see... did you want to follow up with more dumb statements?
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