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Originally Posted by Lazie
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I was at most of the raids that those "Infractions" occurred. There was literally 1 legit issue of the 5.
Klandicar- Nalken pulled him with 2 Mallet charges and said so in TS. Some of our pullers did not hear this. I tagged it off the train with 3 charges and brought it to the tunnel and setup to bleed the fear. Osirous tagged it with one Mallet charge and ran to the raid for when the fear went off and I either flopped or died. Bled the fear and died before I could flop. Klandicar turned back towards Nalken because Osirous didn't hear that it needed more than 2 mallet charges. It turned around and warped through the wall. So we told our raid to run out to the front of the tunnel and kill it. It was an honest mistake by one tagger. It was iffy and could be seen as a violation.
However, we did not stay inside ToV, stall it and then zone out. WE were already buffed and prepping for Sontalak. We zoned out immediately. So the wording on this is a little odd.
Hoshkar- BDA kited Hoshkar for over 1 minute ping ponging back and forth to their raid. They then wiped and were recovering. We had an issue on the pull while they were dragging corpses. Hoshkar AE'd their raid but did not train them. They attacked Hoshkars pet but we pulled Hoshkar back away and he never touched their raid. No clue how we got hit with training BDA here.
Lady M- Pull went west and we immediately dropped it and let her start resetting for well over a minute. Rampage/Taken made no attempt to pull it. She got back to 4-way after this time and we repulled her after dropping the pull. Don't really understand the problem here. When you drop a pull and give the other guild an opportunity to pull and they don't. How long are you supposed to wait ?
Tormax- Same as Lady M. Pull warped and went towards EW. We dropped it and the other guild had an opportunity to pull and didn't. Again... How long are you supposed to wait ? No one has said anything clearly here. 1 minute ? 2 minutes ? No clue here. We witnessed Taken and Rampage train Dain to zone in 2 times and train multiple people the last Dain. They dropped it and picked it up 3 times before killing it while killing other people with trains. They still pulled and killed Dain without the other guild having an opportunity to pull.
Ikatiar- We started a Lady N pull to zone in on a Repop. BDA 45 seconds into this pull pulls Ikatiar after we train up and engages it in the front Hallway. Their pull cross aggroed the pull we already had started before them. Their pullers did not clear their aggro and didn't /q. The train came back to them and wiped both guilds. Who is at fault here ? The guild that didn't clear their pull aggro while pulling after we did or us ? They literally trained us with the same pull. Yet we are in trouble for it.
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Did Asgard receive loot from all these encounters?
I know they were on the encounter logs for all as well as taking part in the planning, tracking and pulling of those mobs. Even updated them as 'kills' on their own Asgard guild thread.
Detoxx never responded to me when I asked him this question in the raid dicussion forum post that is now deleted and locked for no reason. Nemce also asked a reasonable question as well which is also deleted.
If you shared all the responsibilities AND the spoils of those kills with your allied partners why does it make any sense for them to not also be suspended along side of you too?