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Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa
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Its not the objectivist you have to worry about blocking what you want. Its the fact that what you want will only happen successfully in a culturally homogenous state. See if we have to live in a relativist multiculturalist society then rampant capitalism and liberalism is what you will get. If you want deep communal ties, sense of duty, and a collectivist state that works for the interest of the people then you need national socialism. Think of ethnocentric nationalism as the tie that binds the fasci.
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It is true that this is a good explanation for why we don't have the kind of government that they have in the more successful European countries. But that doesn't mean we cannot find ways to form social cohesion without ethnic homogeneity.
Basically Civic Nationalism -- where you feel connection to be a citizen of America -- is lot prettier than ethnic nationalism. The problem with some Muslim populations is not that their skin is brown and they believe Mohammad is the profit. The problem is they reject what it means to be American. But when you make it about being Muslim, we can't make the distinction between Muslims that believe in America and Muslims that want to make some kind of shitty theocracy out of America.
So people like Obama -- who conservatives hated a lot more than Clinton for some reason...
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] -- try to stay away from making this about religion or race. They want to keep it about politics. We also try to bring the younger generations together regardless of race/cultural background (we don't waste the effort on older people). Hopefully we can eventually create enough civic nationalism in due time, without having to resort to ethnic nationalism like Santa advocates for here.