[Sirken]

ok first, I have no idea what was going on during the encounter from Oct 7 that you posted regarding Lady Nev. but I'm going to assume this was a situation where a raid party pulled Lady Nev to entrance (where there were other guilds), then wiped to lady Nev, and essentially trained everyone else at the ent.

that being said, none of you are actually retarded (at least I don't think). And while I know you are looking for something clean cut & black and white, you're just not going to get that. most raid things are situational, and are going to continue to be dealt with on a case by case basis.

if guildA FTEs and engages Lady Nev, but she wipes guildA at the entrance and the only reason guildB got FTE is because guildA wiped and guildB got trained by guildA's Lady Nev at entrance, in what universe can any of you realistically argue that guildB should be held to that FTE? whereas, if guildA is going after Lady Nev, wipes, then guildB charges in to snipe/kill Lady Nev, I think it's pretty clear that guildB should 100% be held accountable for that engage.

the bigger issue (as far as ToV goes) is that guilds seem hell bent on setting up camp on top of each other, as well as pulling targets to the zone in.

and to address the second point by Breaken, there is absolutely no possible situation where two guilds will have FTE on the same target at the same time, rendering it impossible for guildB to block guildA from anything other than the one single mob that guildB has FTE on.

that said, if a guild is going around trying to exploit the FTE mechanics, or game the system, i'm just going to give them 10 days off to think about their actions.

and then lastly, staff members aren't going to be perfect 100% of the time either. if you think a staff member is making a mistake in regards to a raid call, or telling you to do something that contradicts with something I've said or posted, then bring it to my attention.