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Originally Posted by Diogene [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you get both pets low hp's and break charm and just finish them off with root / rot? If you do so, you should't be oom after 3/4 kills, unless frquent unwanted charm breaks

yes i usually kill that fucker off right before hes dead and get lots of exp

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Charming is rough at low levels. Charm breaks, snare, root, even a tiny dot... these things all eat a relatively large amount of mana. And since the level range of things that you get solid XP for is so small, you end up fighting stuff that is basically too high level to charm very effectively.

It gets much, much better as you get more levels.

For now though, my guess is you need to stop exaggerating (20 minutes? it doesn't take a 50+ wizard that long to med to full after a quad) and/or focus on the little things you can do to improve mana useage/regen. Are you ALWAYS sitting down as soon as you can and for as long as you can to get med ticks? Do you waste mana on things like snare or root when you could just make use of wide-open spaces and SoW to avoid getting hit instead? Are you letting the mobs get as low as possible (under 10% at least) before breaking charm to finish them off? Are you keeping yourself buffed with stuff that's unnecessary (if you're outdoors, you basically only need sow and that's it). When you DO need to use a root, are you using the lowest level one? Are you sometimes fighting against even or yellow cons who resist a lot more and have more HP to whittle down?

Stuff like that really can add up over the course of a couple-hour-long solo session.

exaggerating adds emphasis and spice to any anecdote, but in my defense it feels like 20 minutes, but yeah i pretty much am always sitting. I just root/rot or DD them with ignite which doesn't take up too much mana, but I see what you mean now I do unnecessarily waste mana on some spells. I only have the low lvl root but I'm fighting blues. basically over at EK what I do is charm a wolf, send it to kill another wolf and just dot/nuke it up then break charm and kill the other wolf. maybe I don't need to nuke as much, these are some really great tips thanks man

Originally Posted by thebutthat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just train mobs you can charm to that roaming guard over there. Charm before he kills, when he walks away, use your low mana nuke and repeat.

this too I didn't even think of that, pretty dope man thanks