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Old 09-29-2017, 10:47 AM
Triiz Triiz is offline
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Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I don't have the exact formula, although I bet it could be reverse engineered with some tests; but my feeling is that charm duration is 85% level, 10% MR, and 5% charisma
This seems about right to me, close anyways. I would maybe guess 75% level, 15% MR, 10% CHA. The difference between low 100's CHA (charming on a CR) and 255 CHA is pretty noticeable, at least 10% difference I would guess.

Enchanter charm seems to pretty much always land on a blue con tashed charmable trash mobs if it's not above the spells max level i.e. Allure (charm up to 51) seems to only get resisted on lvl 52+ mobs, but it may land on a lvl 51 mob and break in a few seconds on the next tick based on Level/MR/CHA. There are probably exceptions, but for 99% of blue con trash mobs that's been my experience. Obviously probably different if you're level 49 trying to charm a level 51 but I never tried that.

Druid charm is just Level/MR as far as I know, otherwise Halfling druids with like 50 CHA would be terrible charmers. I think Necro is also just level/MR but that's just what I've been told.

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Originally Posted by thebutthat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Bards work under the same formula, but since there charm is only a short duration the additional cha check is less important.
I said it in another thread a few days ago, but I disagree with this. I know it was like that on Live, but I've only played a bard on p99. I have a 60 bard with low CHA in regular gear and over thousands of charms of lvl 45+ mobs I've never once had charm break on the first tick like it does sometimes on my 255 CHA Enchanter. Hard to say if there's a CHA check to see if the initial charm gets resisted or not.
Last edited by Triiz; 09-29-2017 at 10:53 AM..