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Originally Posted by paulgiamatti
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Well, Cersei wasn't going to agree anyway as we found out, so Jon wasn't wrong to profess his fealty in that situation. And you have to admit that sticking to his guns and going to Dragonstone ended up being the right call
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yes, you and I know this now after the fact, but Jon did not. And Jon telling Cersei the truth was not some elaborate plan of his based on his gut instinct of what Cersei would do. no, Jon did what he did for the same reasons that caused Ned to make the wrong decision at almost every single crossroads; honor. And in this world, there's a very fine line between honorable and stupid.
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Originally Posted by Ahldagor
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If we get Jon Snow giving a speech then charging like Arargorn then the laziness of the writers would be confirmed. Last season had a lot of predictability, but it was also a buil-up/filler season. HBO does that with their super-series format tho'. Proly lots of deaths to come (Tyrion sill die proly 2/3 through the season) and Bronn better get his fucking castle.0
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Honestly, I expect Tyrion to live and Bronn to die. Bronn isn't really needed for the future/epilogue, whereas Tyrion very well may be needed. I would not at all be shocked if Jon dies sacrificing himself to defeat the whitewalkers, while Dany dies in child birth (just like Dany's mother died birthing her, and just like Jon's mother died birthing him. You could also try to lump Tyrion in there as he killed his mom in child birth as well, but I don't that's relevant to this specific thing). That would leave J&D's child to be the king, with Tyrion serving as hand and regent until the child comes to age.
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Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod
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I don't know. I'm hoping for a Lord of Light script call back after the final sequence, Jon drops to the ground having served his purpose. Viewers discover he was never really alive, rather the Lord of Light was working through him.
I think we get the spring ending, but with only maybe 2 or 3 surviving characters. Really to make it a good ending, Jon needs to go back to being dead again and it needs to be done the right way.
D&D can't write those kind of scenes, nor can they pace a story correctly up to that kind of scene, so fuck season 8?
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So, funny story, GRRM has actually commented on this in a way. He explained that the magics used to reanimate corpses is not entirely different between the white walkers and the red priests. GRRM uses Beric as the example (i'm assuming because Jon is still dead in the books), but he explains that Beric is for all argumentative purposes, a zombie. His heart doesn't beat, and blood is no longer actively pumped through his veins. On top of these physical changes, Beric notices that he looses a piece of himself each time he comes back to life as if the process was literally tearing mental and emotional layers off of him with each rezz, changing him a bit more each time. But at a bare minimum, we absolutely have both Ice and Fire zombies (in the book at least)