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Originally Posted by mickmoranis
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you dont even consider that crime in the country someone is fleeing from having a single iota of effect on said persons ability to justify crime, you blame americans.
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Except that's not what I said at all, I actually said the opposite:
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Originally Posted by loramin
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Also, immigrants tend to have seen some shit; you don't uproot your entire life and leave the only country you've ever known because things are going great, you leave because everyone around you is starving to death, the government is torturing/raping/murdering everyone, etc. That kind of psychic damage would make any person, anywhere, more violent. But if you have the empathy to say "hey people with shitty lives, why not come live with us where it's less shitty" you should have empathy to understand that people coming from those shitty lives will have a bit more mental shit to deal with.
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Originally Posted by mickmoranis
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The only way to reduce crime in America, by illegal immigrants, is to not let illegal immigrants into the country, or give them a pass for committing crime.
The only reliable solution, end illegal immigration.
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There is no way to "end illegal immigration" without a magic wand. But since I know that facts and logic won't convince y'all, I instead present a
"documentary" written by right-wing libertarians on the topic.
What I will say though is that, since we don't have a magic wand, the next best way to
end reduce illegal immigration would be to ... wait for it ... allow more legal immigration.
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Originally Posted by Patriam1066
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Guns are always relevant in Texas
Keep that California acai berry hippie shit out west
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By " California acai berry hippie shit out" do you really mean "facts" and "logic"? Because the facts about the (lack of) safety given to you by owning a gun are as indisputable as Mick's stats about illegal immigrants committing more crimes.
You can totally have the opinion that guns are awesome, fuck the depressed people that commit suicide with them, fuck the gun owners (or relatives thereof) who go crazy and shoot people (and fuck their victims), and fuck children who shoot each other with their parent's gun ... none of them matter as much as the (comparatively) freak gun owner who successfully defends themselves. Or you could argue that the government will come to get us soon, and that guns (which will do absolutely nothing against tanks, jets, or the bulk of the rest of our military apparatus) are necessary to protect our freedom. Or you can argue that the percentage of gun owners who don't fall into those statistics are the only ones that matter, and everyone else is too stupid and shouldn't be allowed to have a gun (although then you'd probably be pro-gun control ... through IQ tests).
But what you can't argue is that statistically guns make you and the people around you safer, because there is a mountain of evidence that they actually make things
less safe.