[loramin]

Originally Posted by Tuurin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I know about that thread- I actually answered your question on that thread and gave you that link lol. What I'm really wanting to know is if anyone has confirmed that the damage cap is class specific due to some kind of "recent patch".

Also, as a level 21 troll shaman with a Ikky bp and a PWC, meleeing is absolutely doing it right. What am I going to do, root/dot/nuke and med for 5 minutes after every fight? I can melee blues non-stop and not really lose health. Of course eventually with canni/pet/better dots I can potentially do better casting than meleeing, but with slows, heals and decent weapons shaman melee is not at all "doing it wrong."

Oh heh, sorry didn't notice your name.

However, I think you missed my point. I never said "shaman meleeing is a bad idea". On the contrary, shaman have three core playstyles, and that's one of them:

• tank with self
• tank with pet
• root/rot

What I said was:

relying on melee damage [=] a very good chance you're doing it wrong

I stand by that statement. Even with a PWC, try measuring how much melee damage you do over the course of a fight. Now measure how much damage your pet (ie. your best "DoT") does. Now measure how much DoT damage you do.

The exact numbers will vary by gear and level, but even so I can all but guarantee that most of the time your melee damage will be the lowest of the three. Why? Because I did the math with a BSH ... back before the proc nerf ... and even with that (equivalent of an) extra JBB hit per fight, melee still was the lowest of the three for me.

Melee might be 20% of your overall damage, and that's certainly not trivial, but if you switch to a weapon with higher damage/lower delay to account for the damage cap, you'll only get 20% of that difference as an increase to your overall DPS ... and in practice the difference between any two Shaman leveling weapons really won't be all that much.

So look, Shaman melee damage isn't meaningless, and I'm not saying Shaman shouldn't melee. I'm just saying we do (relatively) crap for damage when we hit things with our big stick/spear, and that's to be expected as we're worse at meleeing than every class except Clerics, Druids, and Int casters [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]