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Originally Posted by Hyjalx
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Yup. Its a game of who is better at camera man and petition now.
I have never petitioned another player or guild and I've been playing here 7 years. Inglourious Basterds and Dark Ascension went through all of classic without this non sense. I don't remember Xzerion even suggesting to petition Fish Bait or DA. The rules and times have certainly changed.
I know some didnt like him, but I miss Uthgaard.
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There was a lot of BS between DA and IB, but both guilds had rational people willing to work things out. Xz and Ektar were both pretty solid dudes, and I handled most guild diplomacy BS for DA because Durison, Bronson, Modus, and Nizzarr (other early DA officers) were impossible to reason with, so the IB officers basically just dealt with me. Once those latter 3 ghosted and Veric, Appollo and Aadill became officers DA had a lot more cooler heads as well. All this raid drama isn't anything new, its just that it seems so much more extreme because punishments are harsher and the people who are supposed to avoid having those punishments handed down are inept at doing so.
Problem today is that at least one side seems to have hot heads who are unwilling to admit fault and compromise without getting the staff inolved. Since we're making comparisons to classic guilds, it would be like if Starklen and Hasbinbad were in charge of a guild and that is who you had to compromise with.
I don't miss Uthgaard, but I do miss big Rogean taking an active role in GMing. Dude wasn't perfect, but was by far the most fair and reasonable GM we've had here. That pally during the Sky era was pretty solid too.