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Old 12-22-2018, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
the better question is why are volunteer GMs even responding to petitions rn? Just let the server play out...

Nothing bad will happen, I promise.

Focus on reimbursements and shit.
Here here. As said in the recent drama posts and by wise people in real life, left adults work things out. The GM staff here have become like a nanny state government, throwing around arbitrary and subjective decisions on matters of ethics.
Also, if they'd stop focusing on 5% of the top end of the hierarchy and worried more about the life of the game outside of raiding, the server would be more healthy.

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Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Also, seems like RnF material
You mean like Boutik's 'woe is me, I'm just an honest salesman making a living' vanity thread?
A quarter or more of threads in General Chat belong in RnF. I've been calling them out for ages, to keep them where they belong. Maybe the GMs could raid quest less and forum quest more for once.

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Seriously. We're suspending people for ks'ing level 20 generic orcs? Tell me there's more to this story...
Probably not..likely it's not the content though whom was involved and tie's in with the below..


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Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
What was your response to GM's? Especially for KS or camp issues, GM's will message you and ask about the situation first. They don't blindly suspend for no reason.
Really? Ever met any of Chest's pocket GMs that would insta suspend/ban people within moments of a claim being made?
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90% of cases where said person has been banned was because they either mouthed off to GM
Mouthing off to a GM? Subjective considerations aside, that is not an infraction. If Sirken can log on at Stormfeather, and start killing, porting and suspending people for not following his sudden on the spot change to the rules so his friend can keep a named camp, then I think it's only appropriate we can have cart blanch to say what we like.

We all make this assumption that the game managers actually review cases like these, and frankly I find little evidence they do given the time frames involved and the absurd results we get most of the time.
The likelihood is they don't work from a platform of fact finding and evidence based decision making, it's more likely proponderence of evidence - so in short, if player A complains then the first thing they think is 'why would someone make a complaint? It must have happened!'
or player A complains and the GM thinks 'I know this person, they're telling the truth!'
Welcome to the world of where the accused has to defend themselves or in these cases, never has the chance.
Thank you college campuses for indoctrinating our neckbearded male college students into swallowing the #believethevictim pill