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Originally Posted by Farellron
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I'm ok with a roll, but I also think the terms need to be established before
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Clearly you haven't been paying attention.
The staff does NOT just throw down rules. They've never done so in the entire decade-plus history of the project unless they absolutely had to (eg. the raid scene was becoming such a nightmare for them to manage so they tried the class C and R thing). If there is any way for the staff to avoid making a rule, they will do so.
This does not mean Rogean likes dealing with petitions! In fact, he's has said on multiple occasions that he doesn't, and that he prefers to for the
players to sort things out. But Rogean takes a "hands off"/laissez faire approach, even though he wants order/sanity, because it's what's best for the server (people who run other failed servers have scared players away by having too many or too biased rules, while Rogean has remained neutral here and the server has thrived).
So, what has to happen for a new rule to be introduced to P99 is one of two things:
- There must be a CS nightmare for the staff
- The players must all agree
Before Scout we only had the first option. But then the whole server (or at least the part that cared about Scout) came together, "made up" rules, and enforced them with zero GM influence whatsoever; they only used peer pressure. Amazingly, it worked! The losers who refused to roll were shamed into stopping their clicks, and THEN the staff stepped in and made it so that if future losers tried to click they'd actually get punished for violating a player agreement.
But look, NO ONE here is saying it's fun to have to brow beat a bunch of players into acting like adults. EVERYONE agrees it'd be way easier for the staff to just establish a rule instead. But that's not how things work on P99. If you don't like that, send Rogean a PM about how he should just establish rules for this ... and don't hold your breath waiting for a reply
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If we as the player community want a rule, we have to make it happen, and the only tool we have to do that is communication. Communicating with each other to come up with rules that work for everyone and can't easily be cheated, and communication among the server to let everyone know about the people who refuse to "play nice" and follow to the player agreement (again, until such time as it becomes established and the staff steps in).
TLDR; So in other words, if you say "I won't follow any agreement until it's made official", what you're actually saying is "I will hinder the process of making any agreement official by violating what everyone else has agreed to."