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					Originally Posted by  hotkarlmarxbros
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				loramin, I appreciate what you are trying to say, and I 100% agree with you that I should either give an /ooc that I am contesting a vacant camp or just wait for the mob to pop to see if anybody comes around.  In my mind, it's a quick 6 minute spawn, and if someone other than the guy who is already holding the two spawn comes over, I have no problem yielding the camp (which is why I did the /who to see who really was in the zone at the time and I didn't get anybody gating back saying "hey this is my camp.").  I can see now this is not the right approach and I should make my intentions clear from the jump.  That being said... 
 
This guy is sitting at the two giant camp and coming over into what is widely known as a separate camp and telling me to GTFO.  Does he want to take the single spawn as his camp rather than the two spawn?  Nope, he wants all three.  This would not have been settled with an /ooc of me saying I was taking the camp, that would have just fast forwarded his tantrum about 4-5 minutes.  Fragmented is a bully, and people giving him a pass for acting like this is a large part of the reason why we can see a pattern of this behavior across the server. 
			
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 OP stop acting like you didn't know what was going on. It doesn't take a seasoned rule aficionado to know that you didn't handle this honestly. Anybody capable of deductive reasoning would have seen the IG you showed up at was dead, seen the other 2 had a player killing/sitting near them, and been 99% sure that the same guy was killing all 3.
From that point, regardless of how sure you were about who killed the IF less than 6 minutes ago, you had 2 options:
1)Reach out to him proactively and ask for 1 of the camps. If you wanted to cite the rules on what constitutes a camp AFTER he said no, you'd be in the right.
2)Kill the mob quickly when it pops and deal with the fallout while citing the rules.
You consciously opted for #2. You know it. Fragmented knew it. Everybody in this thread knows it. Any GM that showed up would have seen it and lectured you on the PNP because you didn't handle it honestly.