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Old 11-06-2019, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
There's no need to be grumpy just because you couldn't figure out how to explain why the logs and info I'm posting above matches your theory instead of mine.
I tried to explain to you in game how it functions but you wouldn't listen.

We can agree to disagree until valid proof is submitted.

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[Wed Nov 06 13:22:54 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'my tldr based on my limited research is that fsi is only 1/3 as effective as it used to be'
[Wed Nov 06 13:23:08 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Though it's just 3 hours of logs to check so it's a small sample'
[Wed Nov 06 13:24:19 2019] You told Locomotive, 'at higher level I think you'll get interrupted less'
[Wed Nov 06 13:24:26 2019] You told Locomotive, 'Channeling is a big factor'
[Wed Nov 06 13:24:49 2019] You told Locomotive, 'because it's the damage. not the bash'
[Wed Nov 06 13:25:07 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'No, read the post'
[Wed Nov 06 13:25:13 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Bash interrupts in 3 different ways'
[Wed Nov 06 13:25:13 2019] You told Locomotive, 'I skimmed it'
[Wed Nov 06 13:25:30 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'It can stun you, which interrupts. It can be melee damage which you can possibly channel through or not. OR it can be a special interrupt'
[Wed Nov 06 13:25:40 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'The special interrupt is what ogres are now affected by even with fsi'
[Wed Nov 06 13:25:44 2019] You told Locomotive, 'I'm just saying without being level 50 or 60 with max skill. It's not a fair comparison'
[Wed Nov 06 13:25:57 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Bash interrupt isnt subject to channeling I dont think'
[Wed Nov 06 13:26:13 2019] You told Locomotive, 'you gotta seperate a few things mentally'
[Wed Nov 06 13:26:22 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Channeling lets you cast through damage and small push/movement. I dont believe it stops the instantaneous "bash interrupt" kind of interrupt'
[Wed Nov 06 13:26:33 2019] You told Locomotive, 'Bash does damage. damage vs a caster is calc with channeling'
[Wed Nov 06 13:26:47 2019] You told Locomotive, 'the stun part has nothing to do with interrupts'
[Wed Nov 06 13:26:53 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Go read more carefully. I address this'
[Wed Nov 06 13:27:03 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'The log file prints out differently depending on what kind of interrupt it is'
[Wed Nov 06 13:27:11 2019] You told Locomotive, 'you weren't getting interrupted Before the change. you were getting stunned.'
[Wed Nov 06 13:27:42 2019] You told Locomotive, 'This is the same reason people confuse it with frontal interrupt immunity'
[Wed Nov 06 13:27:48 2019] You told Locomotive, 'i've debated the shit out of this with people'
[Wed Nov 06 13:28:19 2019] You told Locomotive, 'a mob punches you for 1 point of damage while you're casting, it does an interrupt check'
[Wed Nov 06 13:28:25 2019] You told Locomotive, 'a mob bashes you for 1 point of damage while you're casting, it does an interrupt check'
[Wed Nov 06 13:28:45 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Seriously. I post 3 different log entries where I get bashed while casting. In 1, I channel it. In another, it interrupts but only after the spellcast finishes. In a 3rd, it interrupts instantly in the middle of the spellcast'
[Wed Nov 06 13:28:55 2019] You told Locomotive, 'But you're not level 60'
[Wed Nov 06 13:29:03 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'What does that have to do with it?'
[Wed Nov 06 13:29:09 2019] You told Locomotive, 'you're going off information that's based on level 60'
[Wed Nov 06 13:29:21 2019] You told Locomotive, 'you can't compare a level 24 ogre shaman to a level 60 ogre shaman'
[Wed Nov 06 13:29:29 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'im not. I acknowledge that'
[Wed Nov 06 13:29:43 2019] You told Locomotive, 'but people won't understand'
[Wed Nov 06 13:30:09 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'This is all besides the point. The real point is there is a type of interrupt caused by bash that is different than the kind that you can channel through'
[Wed Nov 06 13:34:31 2019] You told Locomotive, 'you still take damage from bash as an ogre right? lol'
[Wed Nov 06 13:34:41 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'I assume so'
[Wed Nov 06 13:35:28 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'I just find it very interesting the different ways that it can play out if you get bashed while casting'
[Wed Nov 06 13:36:32 2019] You told Locomotive, 'Bash also moves you I think'
[Wed Nov 06 13:36:38 2019] You told Locomotive, 'like kick'
[Wed Nov 06 13:36:43 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Or any melee hit, yeah'
[Wed Nov 06 13:37:38 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Do you see what Im saying about channeling being a nonfactor sometimes? I post a log where I an interrupted from the bash because it is melee damage and I do not channel. And I post the log of a successful channel after a bash'
[Wed Nov 06 13:37:42 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'But here's a 3rd type of log'
[Wed Nov 06 13:37:51 2019] You told Locomotive, 'I saw that but I disagree'
[Wed Nov 06 13:37:56 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Where the bash instantly interrupts the spell, instead of not interrupting until the end of the spellcast'
[Wed Nov 06 13:38:00 2019] You told Locomotive, 'I mean'
[Wed Nov 06 13:38:03 2019] You told Locomotive, 'I agree'
[Wed Nov 06 13:38:21 2019] You told Locomotive, 'channeling isnt a factor if your character moves'
[Wed Nov 06 13:38:27 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Yes it is'
[Wed Nov 06 13:38:35 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'You can channel when you move and are not being hit at all'
[Wed Nov 06 13:38:45 2019] You told Locomotive, 'if your character moves from being pushed you're not in the same XY coordinates'
[Wed Nov 06 13:38:47 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'small movements when not in combat can cause a channeling message to appear'
[Wed Nov 06 13:38:59 2019] You told Locomotive, 'you must be in the same X/Y loc for the spell to go off'
[Wed Nov 06 13:39:15 2019] You told Locomotive, 'this is the same reason you can cast a spelll run around, move back to the starting spot and the spell goes off'
[Wed Nov 06 13:40:44 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Hmm. I was pretty sure I've channeled through small movements before when not in combat at all'
[Wed Nov 06 13:40:57 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'just did it'
[Wed Nov 06 13:41:06 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'So no. you're wrong :P'
[Wed Nov 06 13:41:13 2019] You told Locomotive, 'im not wrong'
[Wed Nov 06 13:41:19 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'I started sow, inches forward, got "You regain your concentratino and continue your casting." and it cast'
[Wed Nov 06 13:41:21 2019] You told Locomotive, 'there is small room for movement'
[Wed Nov 06 13:41:26 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Yes you are. I literally just proved you're wrong. Lol'
[Wed Nov 06 13:41:30 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Thats what I just said dude'
[Wed Nov 06 13:41:37 2019] You told Locomotive, 'but you get pushed you can't finish the cast'
[Wed Nov 06 13:41:46 2019] You told Locomotive, 'you're not in the same spot you started the cast'
[Wed Nov 06 13:42:24 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'You're talking nonsense now. You said you have to be at the exact same spot to cast. I said no, you can channel through small movements. Then I just demonstrated ingame and will send you the log or repeat on video. Now you're saying "oh well yeah, you can do small movements"'
[Wed Nov 06 13:42:30 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Do you see how you're confusing me? Lol'
[Wed Nov 06 13:42:55 2019] You told Locomotive, 'honestly I'll never play an ogre so it will never affect me :P'
[Wed Nov 06 13:43:19 2019] You told Locomotive, 'it just seems like people want to argue about ogres'
[Wed Nov 06 13:43:50 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Im not talking about ogres at the moment. You claimed channeling isnt a factor if you move. I just showed ingame that it is. Im curious how you explain that :)'
[Wed Nov 06 13:44:53 2019] You told Locomotive, 'I think the case I was making was about movement'
[Wed Nov 06 13:44:55 2019] Locomotive tells you, '[Wed Nov 06 13:40:53 2019] You begin casting Spirit of Wolf.  [Wed Nov 06 13:40:58 2019] You regain your concentration and continue your casting.  [Wed Nov 06 13:40:58 2019] You feel the spirit of wolf enter you.'
[Wed Nov 06 13:45:08 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'Nothing going on but me casting and walking forward a bit during the spellcast'
[Wed Nov 06 13:45:14 2019] You told Locomotive, 'it's not classic btw'
[Wed Nov 06 13:45:30 2019] Locomotive tells you, 'You're evading :P'
[Wed Nov 06 13:45:39 2019] You told Locomotive, 'on emulator you can cast, move around, go back to your cast spot and it goes off normal'
[Wed Nov 06 13:45:47 2019] You told Locomotive, 'on live you'd of failed the cast'
TL : DR: 3 ways to get interrupted.
Bash Stun
Bash Damage - Affected by channeling
Bashe Push - Affected by channeling without being pushed too far.
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