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Old 12-03-2019, 11:29 AM
Dolalin Dolalin is offline
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Here we go. Some hard numbers from the newsgroups on ZEMs from 2001.

These numbers are taken from http://eqzem.cjb.net/ which I see referenced everywhere in this time period but which wasn't archived properly on web.archive.org.

Quote:
5/12/01

"Elliot Williams" <su...@look.ca> wrote in message
news:L6%K6.69610$2_.24009934@news3.rdc1.on.home.co m...
> All the zones you mention above are newbie zones, and they all have
> higher modifiers than any wilderness zone. They also used to be higher
> than any dungeon zone, though that did change with the exp bonuses
> added a few months back. Even so, most newbie zones are still higher
> than most dungeons. Also, all newbie zones do not have the same
> modifiers.

It looks like the newbie zone modifiers went away, perhaps with the
experience system changes back in January. After more digging, I found out
that the base ZEM used in ShowEQ is 75, and the numbers listed on the page
at http://eqzem.cjb.net/ are added to that 75 base. The "newbie" zones in
Freeport, GFay, and Nek Forest all are shown with a 0% bonus. Prior to being
nerfed, LOIO had a 33% bonus, resulting in a ZEM of 100. There were a few
posts on Hackersquest about the easy experience in LOIO being removed.

> However, if you run an experiment, kill several even cons in Gfay and the
> same number in Crushbone, you will get more exp for the Gfay kills.

This is incorrect. GFay has a 75 ZEM, and Crushbone 80 ZEM. But, frankly,
can we really see the difference that 6.66% makes in our levelling? I doubt
it. On the other hand, I think that getting 33% more experience in LOIO
would have been noticeable.

I'm not trying to be the great arguer of ZEM's and whatnot. But, it seems
like many things about EQ are stated as "fact" over and over again when they
are not. Or, the information is out-dated. Heck, this may have all been
changed in the last patch, and only those people running ShowEQ (not me)
would know about it.

Anita

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....k/XC7BxNSmL7EJ
Crushbone having a ZEM of 80 flies in the face of its current ZEM on P99 based on the 2002/2003 numbers, which is 160.

I believe these ZEMs were mucked around with sometime in Luclin, because Paludal Caverns is the only other zone with a 160 ZEM and it would fit the mold.

(Also, on the subject of ZEM for LOIO since it's in that post: at Kunark release, it seems all the Iksar newbie zones had a ZEM of 100, which was nerfed down to 75 a bit later. Then LOIO was reduced even further because it was overcrowded. ref: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....E/rL8k_44W2V0J )
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