10. We say fuck that and continue as a unit... then last cycle Venerate members team up with us like they have for a few of the cycles Seal Team wouldn't let them join but they didn't have the numbers to do their own thing. Numerous instances in which Lineage has hosted Venerate members and let them roll as equals... well last cycle 5-6 of them had joined 18 of Lineage... we were getting good pulls, happened to loot a webshield that a Venerate won the roll for (yay!)... then suddenly 3 mins after they roll for loot with us they extract from our groups on the orders of their Seal Team daddies... but they sure as shit dont hand back the tradeable item they just took under false pretenses... those pretenses being that: usually when you're in a zone raiding with a guild and one of your members gets a nice loot with them you don't drop 3 mins later and work with the (what should be friendly) competition when they ORDER you to
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