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Old 06-24-2020, 11:39 AM
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I actually get annoyed with Shammys that Canni themselves to the fringe of death, because I'm usually expending my mana to try and get them back to an acceptable health range. I can see Canni being a good thing to have in dire situations where a Shaman needs mana right fucking now, but for a normal group setting where there's a steady and stable flow of pulls and experience, it just seems like it's asking for trouble if the Shaman is low on health and something goes wrong with a pull or a train. Canni is something I would reserve for emergencies only.

Is Meditation really not enough for a Shaman under normal circumstances?
1. Regeneration doesn't work at 100% HP. Before you get Torpor, Shamans should always be cannibalizing to keep themselves under 100% HP. This keeps your HP Regeneration active all the time. This also means you get more Mana regeneration, because you are gaining Mana from Cannibalize.

2. When you are standing and casting spells, you cannot Meditate. This is one reason why Cannibalize is so overpowered. In MOST cases, HP regeneration is higher when standing than Mana regeneration. This is because there are more options for HP regeneration, and HP regeneration items/spells tend to have higher values than their Mana regeneration counterparts.

3. I agree that Shamans shouldn't Cannibalize past a certain % health for safety reasons. 40-50% is my suggestion. If a Shaman is going down to 20% on purpose, they are certainly doing it wrong. The obvious exception here is an emergency situation. If the Shaman is out of mana, but a heal/slow/root could save the group from wiping, then cannibalizing down lower is a reasonable strategy.

4. Let me give you some maths. An Ogre Shaman without Torpor can get +30 HP Regeneration per tick at level 35 with https://wiki.project1999.com/Fungus_Covered_Scale_Tunic and https://wiki.project1999.com/Fungi_Covered_Great_Staff .

At level 35, the best Mana Regeneration you could get is +1 from https://wiki.project1999.com/Choker_of_the_Wretched and roughly +5 or +6 Mana regeneration from Clarity given by an enchanter in the same level range. This means you are looking at +6 to +7 Mana Regeneration at best.

That means you can get 4 times the HP Regeneration as Mana Regeneration. Cannibalize is roughly 2 HP for 1 Mana. This means you can convert your 30 HP Regeneration to roughly 15 Mana Regeneration whenever you want. 15 is DOUBLE what you could get from Clarity and Flowing Thought I.

Fungi Staff and Fungi Tunic are WAY cheaper combined than Choker, and having Clarity all the time requires having a dedicated enchanter friend. HP Regeneration is far superior number wise, and doesn't require another class to buff you.

5. The reason why Shamans Cannibalize in groups is because a good Shaman is buffing, debuffing, rooting, and healing. If they can sustain their Mana, Shamans can also do some damage with DoTs. This takes a LOT of mana. With Cannibalize, Shamans can cast way more spells than any other class before they are required to stop. This is one of the reasons why Shamans are so great in groups. They can do a lot of things, and they can do those things more often.
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