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Originally Posted by FatherSioux
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Jib have you defined what you believe is conservative? Can you give a few examples of past actions presidents have made that are conservative?
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Yeah conservatism is about holding traditional values, not embracing new ones. Trump is all about new ideas, new ways to do things, they just are branded as traditional. He wants to do business with leaders around the world in whole new ways, and turn us into isolationists, that's not unique to conservativism too, sanders wanted us to be isolationists too!
Conservativism takes every day realism and applies it to politics.
It's not like some cross you burn into your chest, that's what people seem to mix up.
You're like progressive libertarians, you want libertarian values, on a progressive's scale. Which is why I conced you guys are maybe actually libertarians, but id call you radical libertarians.
Edit: As for traditional values as examples from former presidents: Idk maybe I am wrong.. every republican since Nixon pretty much was radial.
I guess I consider democrats to be conservative.
So yeah, ok here's my ruling: Trump is a radical libertarian, democrats are conservatives, and everyone else has had it with you two lol