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Old 11-15-2020, 12:43 PM
Danth Danth is offline
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It’s funny how WW2 and the Holocaust are “Oh, just racial superiority stuff”, that really shows your immense bias.

I don’t need to be ‘more specific’, the job most certainly isn’t done, that should be blindingly obvious to anyone who realises we don’t live in a fair and equal society and that there are countries that are way way worse than ours even for this sort of thing.
You can play the WW2/etc angle either way. Chairman Mao and his buddies killed more people on their own in the name of leftist progress than all of WW2 did. We don't need such arguments though--we can all agree that those are terrible ends on either side of the spectrum. At least I hope we can. Is mass killing jews any worse than mass killing kulaks? It's pointless. Arguing such extremes only distracts from the pertinent issues at hand.

Whether the job's done or not depends on the job. What is or isn't done was not my point--only that reformists need to be able to recognize when their goals are achieved lest they morph into something unrecognizable. My daughter's ridiculous (and all too real) science lesson I mentioned before seems, to me anyway, as a flagrant slippery slope case of good intentions run amok. Does that mean all tasks, everywhere, are finished? Of course not. Some other jobs aren't just incomplete, but have been utterly forgotten about: The deforestation of places like the Amazon proceeds virtually unchecked and the oceanic plastic trash patches grow ever-larger.

A very relevant and pertinent example: Militarization of the police. This started out its slow progress decades ago when police with their .38 6-shooters were routinely being outgunned by the bad guys. That was a very real and legitimate problem--but they closed that gap decades ago, at this point. It's not a problem anymore. Nobody accepted the job was accomplished and mission creep set in. Now we have podunk small town PD's around here armed with AR-15's that'll happily shoot through cinderblock walls and kill people on the other side--why exactly? "Officer safety" has morphed into "Kill that dude if he scares me." Failing to recognize the job was finished resulted in creation of a new problem arguably worse than the original one.

Danth
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