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Originally Posted by Ooloo
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I think war criminal is a strong term, and I don't think he lied the intel was just bad. There was some serious shit there, just no nukes.
It's objectively good that saddam doesn't control that region of the world anymore, but the war itself was certainly botched. A huge portion of the death was internessing conflicts between suni and shia muslims killing eachother, which the US didn't anticipate happening. It wasn't just like the US military going around blowing up families for no reason, which is how people paint it. A total mess for sure, but not worthy of calling the dude a war criminal.
Btw fun fact, in 1997 democrats passed the Iraq liberation act, which was a plan to forcibly remove saddam. That's essentially what they did, it just didn't happen until Bush was in office after 911. It wasn't just an evil plan by george bush because he's some kind of cartoonish movie villain, which is also how it's painted.
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I don't think he lied, but I do think Cheney knew the intel wasn't good and pushed it anyway.
At the same time, I don't really blame anyone for believing it. You have Saddam literally refusing to allow weapons inspectors into certain specific areas because he wanted Iran to think he had WMDs. If Iran doesn't think Iraq has them, then Iraq is at extreme risk of Iranian hostilities; Saddam was basically in a very tough position from that perspective so it's not surprising he made it seem like he had WMDs.