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Originally Posted by Zuranthium
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The things you write are so frustrating. You continually bounce between arguing only Velious matters and "all eras matter", and your overall assessment still ignores the superior ways to progress in the game (aka what is most powerful), and the impact of what a Mage brings.
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Since we are looking at the overall usefulness of the class, you cannot simply look at a single era. Otherwise the question becomes "most underpowered in Classic", "most underpowered in Kunark", etc. So you look at the whole timeline, which includes understanding how your character will end up (i.e. in Velious on P99).
I am not ignoring the superior ways to progress in the game. The problem is progressing a Mage is pointless because they end up sucking at 60, except for being a CoTH bot. This is the irony of a Mage. They have good progression and nothing to show for it in the end. The question isn't "which class can progress to 60 fastest".
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Originally Posted by Zuranthium
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Mage is played less in this era outside of raids because Enchanter/Necro are more powerful overall and other casters have either big heals or teleports to fill heavily requested game functions. Mage in Velious era is also psychologically underwhelming because the only thing they gain compared to Kunark is the ability to make their pet unfearable and teleport it to their location, rather than the more tangible upgrades other classes get.
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Now you are getting it.
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Originally Posted by Zuranthium
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Paladin being deleted from the game would basically change nothing. Their +200 HP buff in Velious gives them *something* desirable, but it's not necessary, and if we are talking about someone only having 1 character to play, rather than just logging on the Pally to buff before getting on a better character, then I'd rather have another Cleric anyway (or another Rogue for DPS, or another Bard for manaboost, or another Warrior for tanking).
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We aren't talking about deleting classes, so this point is irrelevant. In a discussion about deleting classes, deleting a Mage wouldn't really change anything either. It would just slow down the raiding meta a bit. You don't need CoTH to do any raid content.