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Originally Posted by w1zard
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what is this thread even about again? feel like this belonged in RnF 85 pages ago.
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Your previous post was exactly what this thread is about. Best 4 man caster/priest group.
I agree with your assessment, Shaman/Enchanter/Necromancer/Cleric is probably the best all around choice, and that this thread should have been moved into RnF once the trolls moved in.
We were debating whether or not a Mage should make the list. The argument for Mage was Malo + Charm Break Safety (pet tanking) + DPS.
I showed them the numbers on how Mage DPS isn't that much better than Shaman DPS, and Shaman's also cover the Malo + Charm Break Safety portions quite well. Plus Shamans have a much broader kit to help out in other situations too. Therefore you don't really need to bring a Mage over a Shaman, unless you need CoTH support.
But for some reason people don't understand basic math on these forums. They believe that DPS somehow changes based on being a in a group (even though mob stats don't change based on solo/group status), and you can't math out average DPS in a game literally based on averages. So they trolled the thread into oblivion because they believe their "experience" negates factual mathematical realities.
The provider of the Mage data (Troxx) claims his own data is inaccurate (and theoretically that means Mage DPS is higher), but he consistently refuses to provide "accurate" data. He blames me for not bringing data that fits his arbitrary standards, so he just dismisses it.
My data is here if you are interested:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=638 .